The Explorers Analysis

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its-whitetomorrow:

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With the new episode released, we got a ton of new info on the series’ original villains. I compiled everything you should know here. Tell me if I missed anything!

So beyond Amethio and Spinel, the other lead Explorers are a short girl with twin-tails, a tall figure in a cloak, and some guy who hunches over as he stands. And we still have no idea what Gibeon looks like, as only his voice (Show Hayami!) is heard from behind that monolith. 

We just might have the greatest group of villains in Pokeani history here. Get hyped!

Gibeon might be… maybe… an AI no less? xD The whole we live to fulfill Gibeon’s wishes is certainly a little bit… new. And they did have an AI in the game’s incarnation to get inspired by, even if they’re doing their own thing

The way they speak of/to Gibeon with such reverence gives me king vibes. I think he might be the king from the legend of the Treasures of Ruin, either somehow extending his life in some way or speaking to them through time using Tera Crystals. Either way, he’s still after more treasures. If I’m right, I could see Liko’s pendant being the key to restoring his physical body/activating a time machine to bring him into the present. Time travel *will* likely be coming up for the Paradox Pokémon…

There is certainly a lot of unpredictability factor here, with how original they’re and I love it!

Pokemon: Best Wishes - Fun Fact

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It is glaringly obvious at this point that for Pokemon: Best Wishes which transpired in an American-based region, Norihiko Sutou, Atsuhiro Tomioka and the writers took a lot of influence from the US Cold War…particularly in its heyday through the 50s, 60s and 70s.

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Giovanni’s new military style outfit as he works towards conquering a foreign region is loosely based off that of Joseph Stalin, the original dictator of the communist Soviet Union, with all of the super spy intrigue of Team Rocket’s covert operations in Unova also calling to mind the Soviets’ covert operations in the US. The Meteonite is positioned like a nuclear weapon, with Team Rocket and Team Plasma’s fight over it representing the Arms Race. The real life secret agent happenings in the world inspired the creation of James Bond, which Pierce seems loosely based on to the point where his English name is based on that of actor Pierce Brosnan, who was portraying the character at the time Pokemon was created. In a similar vein, Albert Einstein inspired many fictional scientists in movies, some of them evil, which is clearly the basis for Dr. Zager. The Japanese kaiju movies that became popular in this time period are reflected with the clashing between the Forces of Nature and likely would have been with Zekrom vs. Reshiram as well. And if the original Team Plasma story arc had gone through, then it would have represented the Civil Rights movement (a literal “black and white” situation) but in reverse, being a movement to create segregation rather than to abolish it.

You just gotta love the thought and care put into this series, executive meddling be damned.

Haha, yep, so true!

Team Rocket VS. Team Plasma!

The full script + English translation

illustrious-rocket:

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HAPPY METEONITE DAY!

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With the whole thing out, I just want to look at a few key notes and differences between my old synopsis (which I’ve updated) and between how the episodes themselves ended up. 

I had two sources for the synopsis. One of them has now been exposed as a lying troll, as literally none of what they said actually happened in the episodes: Ash and his friends don’t voluntarily leave Juniper and Jenny, Krokorok doesn’t fight Pikachu, Ash and Iris don’t infiltrate the building and have Pikachu cut the power, Team Rocket doesn’t shoot at the Meteonite to empower Woobat and cause havoc in the process (they’re actually trying to stop it!), and in general a shit ton of details about Part 2 are left out…because like I said, the source was a liar who never saw the scripts and was out trolling. The OTHER source, however, was a storyboard artist on Part 1 who also glimpsed some stuff for Part 2 when the episodes were being produced. His recollections were generally accurate, as he said what he remembered was the whole Relic Castle ritual with Team Rocket, the adult and child heroes separating and then reconvening midway through, the whole deal with Giovanni trying to buy off Unova’s elites mafia-style using the Meteonite as leverage, Team Plasma wanting the Meteonite to drive Pokemon away since that’s the effect it has on wild Pokemon so they hope to do it with trained Pokemon as “the Hero” desires, Officer Jenny and Iris remaining outside the building while everyone else is inside, the whole backstory behind the Meteonite as explained by Professor Juniper, and the effect it has on Pikachu (it goes back to being overcharged and unable to use electricity like with what Zekrom did, then after Team Plasma takes the Meteonite the effects reverse so that it can use all the electricity and it runs off with the purpose of destroying the Meteonite with the heroes following). While some of what I wrote in the initial synopsis may have been off due to either Google Translate’s wonkiness or the source remembering things out of order, he clearly wasn’t lying to me like the other one.

Some things in the script clearly got changed in production, as well. The most obvious is that the first episode was called “Gathering of the Evil Organizations! The Desert Resort!!”, while only the second was called “Team Rocket VS. Team Plasma!” The finalized version ended up having both episodes called “Team Rocket VS Team Plasma!”, with a “Part One” and “Part Two” designation. Another change is how Giovanni’s arrival in the Desert Resort went down, as it’s described in the script as having the crowd of Team Rocket grunts flank him as he exits his plane, whereas in the final version the grunts are already gathered alongside Jessie, James, Meowth, Pierce and Dr. Zager when he lands. But the most drastic alteration is the whole midway point: in the original scripts it happens at a luxury hotel in the Desert Resort rather than a building in Castelia City, Team Plasma’s helicopter comes in from over the roof rather than outside the windows, and rather than a Liepard in the helicopter blasting the windows with a Hyper Beam it’s one inside the building blasting a Hyper Beam at Looker. 

Lastly, the biggest new information by far is what goes on with Team Plasma in Part Two. Not only do we hear more about “the Hero”, but we actually hear and see some of Ghetsis, who sits besides two small statuettes of Zekrom and Reshiram. We also get Giovanni reacting to learning Team Plasma’s name and making clear that he and the Team Rocket organization was to still be heavily involved in fighting Team Plasma in the originally planned B/W-based Team Plasma story arc. Beyond all of the graphic depictions of hot radiation threatening to destroy a city alongside all the earthquakes triggered by the Meteonite’s power, this is why the episodes were ultimately removed altogether: Team Plasma was setting up a story arc that B2/W2 rendered obsolete. Again, being a merchandise-driven show can really suck.

OK, I cannot lie to myself or others - reading these drafts that, especially in BW24, clue us in to what the original plan for the overarching series arc was, really has lowered my objective opinion on Best Wishes in the form we ended up with. My subjective opinion remains the same, but now that we know for sure we could’ve gotten not only BW1 Team Plasma and allusions to Hero of Truth N, but fucking Ghetsis getting his existence and presence established at that point and, if how Giovanni exited was anything to go by, more Year 3 Giovanni/TR content with Team Rocket continuing to combat Team Plasma even after Operation Tempest ended in failure? We got fucking robbed! The trainwreck that BW ended up becoming in Year 3 now looks even worse than it already did, enough so to make me almost wish we’d never found out what was in those episodes scripts at all (though as was noted, these were just the initial drafts - the finalized episodes that were set to broadcast might’ve had more alterations than we know of, and the short footage compilation film covering the retroactive “canonical” version of the “Dummied Out” events that the two-parter was meant to show plays it out a little differently too, so the drafts can be considered a “What If?” at best.)

Ultimately this reconfirms what we already know for years now - that the Unova League, Iris’ character arc and the Village of Dragons, Team Rocket’s conquest conspiracy, and the Myth Arc around the Legendary Pokemon of Truth and Ideals, the Heroes Legend, and Team Plasma, were meant to be a lot more interconnected than they ended up being. Sad to admit what was meant to be experimental, groundbreaking and truly epic in a way unseen in the anime up to that point ultimately became just another Atsuhiro Tomioka series.

I am LOSING MY FUCKING MIND over how close my personal reconstruction of the original arc’s planned direction is to reality. Even just with these, I put Ghetsis into my reconstruction of BW024 on a whim to better glue the plot threads together (he threatened Giovanni prior to the helicopter attack via video) and lo and behold he actually WAS in it. That means my Holy Grail of pokeani material - settei of BW1 Ghetsis - DOES exist.

Ghetsis, Ghetsis, Ghetsis in the proper form… and he even had something that - suspiciously - came very close to his official anime music theme, in one of the movies. It’s time to unbury this thing! (Track 47, almost as if it was created with Ghetsis in mind!). Based on the scripts, having established Ghetsis presence so early, they wouldn’t merely drop the earlier incarnation of Plasma or handle it off-screen, far more likely the second one would be developing over the course of the original Plasma plot, with Ghetsis having his own plans in the shadows. So I wasn’t too far off with this music playlist and potential plot speculation! Most likely it would all culminate in the league and whatever the BW1 Team Plasma/N expectations - say, like Alan’s in XYZ - it would ultimately end up in the grand reveal of the actual plan, Ghetsis’ gloating, and by this point Colress possibly playing his part behind the scenes too, with the nasty control research kept far away from N and idealist grunts (which I guess could have been those Plasma agents from the scripts - that Liepard petting was very telling!). It’s fun to think of this again!

The episodes themselves weren’t anything more than we suspected they would be, but then again, they were very unique, with very unique elements and character interactions in them, and nothing like it ever since, and if all of this came to pass, influencing the structure of the series… maybe the anime itself would not be delayed for 3 series straight in certain departments and would be more free to keep doing innovated and slightly more interconnected things, you know, how it’s just went back to doing… now? Because Horizons gives me very similar vibes and it might be a lot of interconnected story arcs, kinda like the original BW might have turned out (though with BW mostly limited to villain arc department, whereas now it’s the entirety of the cast and continuity subject to such treatment!). Oh, I only wish it was never so wasted and denied to TRio, legacy characters and our old cast of the past three series!

Oh well, I guess the only thing that I wouldn’t even dream of, was that Giovanni actually had a solid plan and hinted at more action against Plasma, strategically salvaging the Meteonite failure and apparently being two steps ahead in the game - rather than just retreat in defeat and lose interest in Unova for the entire series. As cool as it was, this probably means the Operation Tempest would have been something else, maybe the culmination of TR / TP rivalry, when once again they come face to face, and N, as a hero, gotta save the day and prove himself, by putting an end to Team Rocket’s planned conquest and exploitation of legendary Pokemon (captured forces of nature?) which then would lead directly to Flare-styled league finale, and who knows, Jessie, James, and Meowth could have returned to Unova as they did in Episode N (except Episode N would not exist separately but all part of the Plasma league arc) and played the exact same roles they did in the Flare arc and Episode N arc - ultimately, help defeat the big bad Ghetsis as he goes rampart, and report back to Giovanni that all is well. It’s quite likely, that for three series straight, we’ve been just reliving bits and pieces of what was to be but never was, all over again and again, same same bits and pieces served differently… Someone gotta take a journey back in time, convince TV Tokyo to release those a week earlier and see how it goes from there! Very interesting how the Pokeani would have looked like then, at present day… 

……….DUDE.

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https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2023-05-03/unaired-pokemon-black-and-white-anime-episode-scripts-go-public/.197734

https://kotaku.com/pokemon-anime-lost-episodes-team-rocket-earthquake-1850396995

https://gizmodo.com/pokemon-scripts-lost-episodes-2011-earthquakes-1850412007

https://www.cbr.com/pokemon-black-and-white-scripts-unaired-episodes-resurface/

https://gamerant.com/pokemon-anime-script-unaired-team-rocket-episodes/

https://screenrant.com/lost-pokemon-episode-found-team-rocket-vs-plasma/

https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-fans-recover-script-lost-anime-episodes/

https://sea.ign.com/pokemon-black-version/198596/news/scripts-for-lost-pokemon-episodes-unearthed-after-12-years

https://www.eurogamer.net/lost-episodes-of-pokemon-anime-translated-by-fans-for-first-time

https://www.ggrecon.com/articles/lost-pokemon-anime-script-recovered-by-fans/

https://www.dexerto.com/pokemon/pokemon-anime-scripts-two-lost-episodes-2132062/

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2023/05/random-scripts-for-cancelled-pokemon-anime-episodes-recovered-by-fans

https://gonintendo.com/contents/19770-scripts-from-scrapped-pokemon-black-and-white-anime-episodes-surface

https://nintendosoup.com/scripts-for-two-unaired-pokemon-anime-episodes-surface-online/

https://exputer.com/news/entertainment/pokemon-unova-lost-episodes-special/

https://gameranx.com/updates/id/464895/article/pokemon-anime-lost-episode-scripts-released/

https://otakuusamagazine.com/unaired-pokemon-black-and-white-anime-scripts-uncovered-closing-a-gap/

So. Many. Articles!

This has just gotten more and more surreal to experience. Almost as surreal as my continuing epiphany that this two-parter is now a case of Schrödinger’s Episodes: both happening and not happening at the same time (in the original Japanese version anyway; they straight-up don’t happen in the international version). Has any other anime had a situation like this one?

This needs a reblog!

Oh, imagine, if only this ended up motivating someone at Pokemon Co / TvTokyo to give those an animation release as well! That, plus coupled with the style that they went with for new anime, no less! Which is VERY MUCH a return to BW-like vibes again. I mean, there are sure some new digital /disc releases of BW to be made someday, so there is always an opportunity to sneak these in, and now that everyone found out anyway… what do they lose… 

granted i've seen people mention ghetsis!!!! was in those? gonna read soon but even then doesn't need to be attached as full-fledged part of the series just bonus episodes

The Explorers Analysis

themattress:

galactidot:

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With the new episode released, we got a ton of new info on the series’ original villains. I compiled everything you should know here. Tell me if I missed anything!

So beyond Amethio and Spinel, the other lead Explorers are a short girl with twin-tails, a tall figure in a cloak, and some guy who hunches over as he stands. And we still have no idea what Gibeon looks like, as only his voice (Show Hayami!) is heard from behind that monolith. 

We just might have the greatest group of villains in Pokeani history here. Get hyped!

Gibeon might be… maybe… an AI no less? xD The whole we live to fulfill Gibeon’s wishes is certainly a little bit… new. And they did have an AI in the game’s incarnation to get inspired by, even if they’re doing their own thing

its-whitetomorrow:

3 episodes in, violet interior of the submarine, high tech screen details, three guys, an old guy, and the mention of the big boss… HAHAHAHA. I can’t even. 

Tell me post-BW Team Rocket got screwed and was never treated fair thanks to some lame enforced limitations… without saying a word, because that’s what this scene is.

Granted, it has new direction and writer, but this is still… such a coincidence. Will make me less fond of Explorers if they’re just going to rely on Team Rocket’s BW cues and wish Giovanni sent a squadron to safeguard his copyrights. 

Also, Bets Wishes knew how to build things up bit by bit or make things a bit different at each phase… if that’s 3-4 episodes in here… makes me wonder what does it mean for episode 100? Hmm

3 episodes in, violet interior of the submarine, high tech screen details, three guys, an old guy, and the mention of the big boss… HAHAHAHA. I can’t even. 

Tell me post-BW Team Rocket got screwed and was never treated fair thanks to some lame enforced limitations… without saying a word, because that’s what this scene is.

Granted, it has new direction and writer, but this is still… such a coincidence. Will make me less fond of Explorers if they’re just going to rely on Team Rocket’s BW cues and wish Giovanni sent a squadron to safeguard his copyrights. 

oh well at least the old guy does not look like they're piloting a helicopter...

peoplecallmelucifer:

OK SO! A lot of people seem to think that Jesse, James and Meowth are incompetent in pokemon! WHICH HIS ABSURD!!!

They first appear on A MOST WANTED POSTER!
They get beaten day by day by a kid who literally fought with gods! AND THEY KEEP GOING
Their boss recognizes this because an efficient crew like them doesn’t suddenly become dumb! They have operational autonomy, LIMITLESS RESOURCES granted to them and if the boss needs something done (like he did in Unova) HE SENDS THEM!
True he keeps their failure to catch pikachu dangling but he knows they are loyal and never pulls them off the field even with all of their financial losses
+ Giovanni as well as some other Team rocket members (Butch and Cassidy) have ran into Ash and Co and got their asses handed to them so THEY KNOW who these 3 fanatics are dealing with!

That’s true to an extent, although until BW Giovanni clearly has no idea who Ash or Pikachu were, so he doesn’t give them any free money (in fact, they’re supposed to give money they’ve exhausted back). During the fallout years, JJ&M had helped themselves a bit with some of these far-fetched reports concerning the regional teams, so he gave them a chance in Unova and they did not waste it. And then going forward, it’s mostly how you said it, yeah! (though some of the writing is bleh and messed up).


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